Confused

This is not meant to sound sarcastic ... I'm honestly trying to figure this situation out.

So the Supreme Court in Honduras ousted their President Zelaya after he tried to illegally change their constitution to grant him more powers and control.  For more background on all that, visit WSJ.  Essentially, he wanted a vote to change the constitution, he ordered the ballots, was all ready to go, and the Supreme Court said, "you can't call for a referendum, a constituent assembly has to" and they ordered the military not to proceed with the vote.  Zelaya fired the top military guy and proceeded, and then the court fired back and had him outed, sending him into exhile and having Congress appiont a new dude.  Someone Hugo Chavez apparently despises, by the way, which makes me happy, because anyone he hates is a friend of mine.

But news reports aren't really reporting it that way.  WSJ seems to be the only one (and it's an opinion piece I link to) that explains the Supreme Courts perspective.  This article at AOL.com from a wire service makes it sound like the court is meanly trying to stop Zelaya from seeking re-election.

In the 8th paragaph, below the fold, it says:
His ouster came hours before polls were to open on a constitutional referendum that Zelaya was pushing ahead even after the Supreme Court and the attorney general said it was illegal. The constitution bars changes to some of its clauses, such as the ban on a president serving more than one term, they said.
The important part of that statement being, Honduran President's can't seek more than one term, as Zelaya was attempting to do.

So.

Hillary Clinton is saying that the coup is mean and unlawful.  Which puts her on the side of Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.

Now, in a strange turn, President Obama has come out and said it was illegal, putting him also on the same side as Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.

I'm taking this as, he's decided that he does need to make timely comments.  Which is good.  But, siding with communist dictators is probably not the right way to go.

My perspective here is probably that they should have let him (Zelaya) serve out the remainder of his term.  And that South America has a love affair with military coups that they probably need to get rid of if they are ever going to be truly free.

This paragraph made me laugh:
"They kidnapped him like cowards," screamed Melissa Gaitan. Tears streamed down the face of the 21-year-old, who works at the government television station. "We have to rally the people to defend our president."
No more violence.  In this country (United States) we truly take for granted our smooth transitions of power.  George Bush was hated, defiled, and his leaving was the most anticipated event in my recent memory, but there was no violence, no craziness, only a peaceful transition from one methodology to another.

We should count our blessings, and remind the world that democracy works.  Let Freedom Ring!

Comments

Bob S. said…
Stacy,

Hate to sound cynical but are you looking at this from the view of doing the right thing or from the view of which will give the politicians more power?

To admit that the Honduran branches of government acted correctly would the perception of our governmental separation of powers might shift.

The last half dozen presidents have been accumulating more power, Congress has been sticking it's nose in everyone's business and the Courts have either looked the other way or helped.

To admit that the Rule of Law should be the highest goal would be to admit we haven't been following it here in America. No one, especially in this administration wants to do anything to reduce their power.
BellsforStacy said…
Hmmm ... you're right, it's a bit cynical. :)

I'm really just looking at Honduras and trying to see what the heck is going on. It's not a situation I've followed so it's all new to me.

I would say that if President Obama sought re-election after two terms, that our Supreme Court should step in and say that is illegal. So far, the courts have looked at the different executive decisions and said they were constitutional. Whether I agree or not is irrelevant. The court decided, we move on, no one is hurt or ousted in a military coup.

I look at these situations in Iran and Honduras and I think ... the second amendment, is so, so important. Because I don't think these situations are as easy to create when you have an armed constituency.

That's simplistic, I know, but that's where my minds been going.
eichak said…
Obama has been described as a realist in his thinking on foreign policy. I am just learning what that means. He was praised in his realist approach to Iran. He basically did not want to get into the argument that was going on and he didn’t until his critics pounded the drum loudly. It also appears that he is using this approach with North Korea. Where he has not used the realist (let things play out without interference from the US) is in Honduras. I don’t really understand why he commented so quickly and so strongly. I don’t know if it was necessary for the Supreme Court to oust Zelalya. Could they have left him in office until his term was up? I understand he was using Chavez’s planes and printing presses to further his cause. It does not bode well that it appears that Zelalya was making headway with the rural people and the opposition was afraid they would lose the fight to get rid of Zelalya in the fall. So they decided to kick him out of the country.
It does make me wonder why Obama acted so quickly and with such strong words.
Bob S. said…
Eichak,

From my understanding he was trying to make an immediate power grab, opening the doors for him to be a dictator for life....completely unconstitutionally.

I would say they had to act and act immediately.

I am cynical, I think that Rahmns quote about not letting any crisis go to waste comes into play here.

Ask yourself, what does the Obama administration gain from the course they take.

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